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Off-Topic: Crime Statistics Don't Pay

Bert Gunter
WARNING: COMPLETELY OFF TOPIC -- Nothing to do with R.

I thought readers of this list might enjoy the following. The link to
the full article is at the bottom. I hope this is not "too"
inappropriate.

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Overconfidence in crime statistics doesn’t pay. In a new study, a team
of criminologists makes the case that reported crime rates should
acknowledge uncertainty in the data. The research demonstrates that
rankings of cities as safer or more dangerous — which can influence
tourism and tax spending — can be highly misleading.

“If you look at crime rates from year to year and you see a change,
there’s a fundamental ambiguity in whether that change is caused by a
real change in crime, a change in reporting or some of both,” says
criminologist Robert Brame of the University of North Carolina at
Charlotte, a coauthor of the new study. “Our position is we should own
that. There’s ambiguity here and we should learn to deal with it.”
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Aside from, "Well, duhhh...," my reaction was:  what other misleading
"data" are being thrown around in the public domain whose uncertainty
has been blithely ignored.... Don't answer that!

http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/340450/title/Crime_numbers_may_mislead_

Cheers,
Bert

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Re: Off-Topic: Crime Statistics Don't Pay

John Kane
And you don't want to know about some of the other problems with the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reports.  IRRC, they are fine for what the FBI intended but a lot of reseachers don't read the data descriptions as closely as they should.

John Kane
Kingston ON Canada


> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Fri, 4 May 2012 09:49:15 -0700
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: [R] Off-Topic: Crime Statistics Don't Pay
>
> WARNING: COMPLETELY OFF TOPIC -- Nothing to do with R.
>
> I thought readers of this list might enjoy the following. The link to
> the full article is at the bottom. I hope this is not "too"
> inappropriate.
>
> -------
> Overconfidence in crime statistics doesn’t pay. In a new study, a team
> of criminologists makes the case that reported crime rates should
> acknowledge uncertainty in the data. The research demonstrates that
> rankings of cities as safer or more dangerous — which can influence
> tourism and tax spending — can be highly misleading.
>
> “If you look at crime rates from year to year and you see a change,
> there’s a fundamental ambiguity in whether that change is caused by a
> real change in crime, a change in reporting or some of both,” says
> criminologist Robert Brame of the University of North Carolina at
> Charlotte, a coauthor of the new study. “Our position is we should own
> that. There’s ambiguity here and we should learn to deal with it.”
> ---
>
> Aside from, "Well, duhhh...," my reaction was:  what other misleading
> "data" are being thrown around in the public domain whose uncertainty
> has been blithely ignored.... Don't answer that!
>
> http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/340450/title/Crime_numbers_may_mislead_
>
> Cheers,
> Bert
>
> --
>
> Bert Gunter
> Genentech Nonclinical Biostatistics
>
> Internal Contact Info:
> Phone: 467-7374
> Website:
> http://pharmadevelopment.roche.com/index/pdb/pdb-functional-groups/pdb-biostatistics/pdb-ncb-home.htm
>
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John Kane
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And you don't want to know about some of the other problems with the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reports.  IRRC, they are fine for what the FBI intended but a lot of reseachers don't read the data descriptions as closely as they should.

John Kane
Kingston ON Canada


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> Sent: Fri, 4 May 2012 09:49:15 -0700
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: [R] Off-Topic: Crime Statistics Don't Pay
>
> WARNING: COMPLETELY OFF TOPIC -- Nothing to do with R.
>
> I thought readers of this list might enjoy the following. The link to
> the full article is at the bottom. I hope this is not "too"
> inappropriate.
>
> -------
> Overconfidence in crime statistics doesn’t pay. In a new study, a team
> of criminologists makes the case that reported crime rates should
> acknowledge uncertainty in the data. The research demonstrates that
> rankings of cities as safer or more dangerous — which can influence
> tourism and tax spending — can be highly misleading.
>
> “If you look at crime rates from year to year and you see a change,
> there’s a fundamental ambiguity in whether that change is caused by a
> real change in crime, a change in reporting or some of both,” says
> criminologist Robert Brame of the University of North Carolina at
> Charlotte, a coauthor of the new study. “Our position is we should own
> that. There’s ambiguity here and we should learn to deal with it.”
> ---
>
> Aside from, "Well, duhhh...," my reaction was:  what other misleading
> "data" are being thrown around in the public domain whose uncertainty
> has been blithely ignored.... Don't answer that!
>
> http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/340450/title/Crime_numbers_may_mislead_
>
> Cheers,
> Bert
>
> --
>
> Bert Gunter
> Genentech Nonclinical Biostatistics
>
> Internal Contact Info:
> Phone: 467-7374
> Website:
> http://pharmadevelopment.roche.com/index/pdb/pdb-functional-groups/pdb-biostatistics/pdb-ncb-home.htm
>
> ______________________________________________
> [hidden email] mailing list
> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help
> PLEASE do read the posting guide
> http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html
> and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.

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