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Bert Gunter
Folks:

In the past 2 days I have seen a large increase of  spam getting into
R-help. Are others experiencing this problem? If so, has there been some
change to the spam filters on the R-servers? If not, is the problem on my
end?

Feel free to reply privately.

Thanks.

Bert Gunter
Genentech Nonclinical Statistics
South San Francisco, CA 94404
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Re: Off topic:Spam on R-help increase?

fernando espindola
Bert Gunter wrote:

> Folks:
>
> In the past 2 days I have seen a large increase of  spam getting into
> R-help. Are others experiencing this problem? If so, has there been some
> change to the spam filters on the R-servers? If not, is the problem on my
> end?
>
> Feel free to reply privately.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bert Gunter
> Genentech Nonclinical Statistics
> South San Francisco, CA 94404
> 650-467-7374
>
>
>  
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>  
I have the same problem with the spam, anybody can stop the spam in
r-help and others mail list, r-sig-robust, etc.

Thanks

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Re: Off topic:Spam on R-help increase?

Carlos Guerra-3
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Dear Gunter,
I am having the same problem at my email box.

Bert Gunter escreveu:

> Folks:
>
> In the past 2 days I have seen a large increase of  spam getting into
> R-help. Are others experiencing this problem? If so, has there been some
> change to the spam filters on the R-servers? If not, is the problem on my
> end?
>
> Feel free to reply privately.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bert Gunter
> Genentech Nonclinical Statistics
> South San Francisco, CA 94404
> 650-467-7374
>
>
>  
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>  

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Re: Off topic:Spam on R-help increase?

Peter Dalgaard
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Bert Gunter wrote:
> Folks:
>
> In the past 2 days I have seen a large increase of  spam getting into
> R-help. Are others experiencing this problem? If so, has there been some
> change to the spam filters on the R-servers? If not, is the problem on my
> end?
>
> Feel free to reply privately.
>  
Martin Maechler is still walking about upside-down after the DSC, slated
to return on March 8 (plus presumably a day or two to recover from the
flight...). The lists are currently on minimal maintenance and the spam
filters have been known to break and give up occasionally. I think we
just have to bear with it for a few more days.

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Re: Off topic:Spam on R-help increase?

Douglas Bates-2
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On 3/6/07, Bert Gunter <[hidden email]> wrote:

> In the past 2 days I have seen a large increase of  spam getting into
> R-help. Are others experiencing this problem? If so, has there been some
> change to the spam filters on the R-servers? If not, is the problem on my
> end?

There has indeed been an increase in the amount of spam making it
through to the list.  We apologize for the inconvenience.  Regretably
we will not be able to do much about it until the beginning of next
week.

Martin Maechler is on vacation at present and I am administering the
lists until he returns.  Most of the time this works even though the
mail servers are in Zurich Switzerland and I am in Madison, WI, USA.
However, in the last two days we have had a surge in spam and quite a
bit of it is getting through the filters.

The filters are catching some of the spam.  I think the main
difference in the last two days has been that the level of spam to the
lists has increased but it could be that something has happened to the
filters too.

All the lists except R-help only allow postings from subscribers so
there should very little spam on the other lists.

This subscriber-only policy can be difficult for people like me who
receive email at one address but send it from another.  Either the
sender must remember to use the account that is registered for the
list or the list administrator must manually approve the posting.
Even worse, such a policy dissuades new useRs from posting because
they get a response that their message has been held pending manual
approval by the administrator.  Sometimes they react by reposting the
message, then re-reposting, then ...

We have avoided instituting such a policy on R-help because of the
level of administrative work that will be involved and our desire not
to dissuade new useRs from posting to the list.

However, if this keeps up we may need to reconsider.

I would ask for the list subscribers to bear with us until Martin
returns and can check on whether something has gone wrong with the
filters.

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Re: Off topic:Spam on R-help increase?

Marc Schwartz
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On Tue, 2007-03-06 at 08:23 -0800, Bert Gunter wrote:

> Folks:
>
> In the past 2 days I have seen a large increase of  spam getting into
> R-help. Are others experiencing this problem? If so, has there been some
> change to the spam filters on the R-servers? If not, is the problem on my
> end?
>
> Feel free to reply privately.
>
> Thanks.

The "Human Spam Filter" (aka Martin) is on vacation through Friday,
subsequent to attending DSC.

Not sure if there is much else that can be done until his return.

The good news is that my automated filters on my system are picking up
'most' of them.  But there has been a notable increase in the past few
days suggesting that something is amiss in Zurich...

It is also happening on the other R related lists (ie. ESS, etc.).

Regards,

Marc

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Re: Off topic:Spam on R-help increase?

Fernando Mayer
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Not in the past 2 days, but only today I've received already more than
40 spams from R-help and R-sig-* too. Rarely I received a spam from
these lists...

Fernando Mayer.

Bert Gunter escreveu:

> Folks:
>
> In the past 2 days I have seen a large increase of  spam getting into
> R-help. Are others experiencing this problem? If so, has there been some
> change to the spam filters on the R-servers? If not, is the problem on my
> end?
>
> Feel free to reply privately.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bert Gunter
> Genentech Nonclinical Statistics
> South San Francisco, CA 94404
> 650-467-7374
>
>
>
>
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Re: Off topic:Spam on R-help increase?

Mark Kimpel
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me too. Over 50% of messages are spam. I also noted the same thing on
ESS-help.

Carlos Guerra wrote:

> Dear Gunter,
> I am having the same problem at my email box.
>
> Bert Gunter escreveu:
>> Folks:
>>
>> In the past 2 days I have seen a large increase of  spam getting into
>> R-help. Are others experiencing this problem? If so, has there been some
>> change to the spam filters on the R-servers? If not, is the problem on my
>> end?
>>
>> Feel free to reply privately.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Bert Gunter
>> Genentech Nonclinical Statistics
>> South San Francisco, CA 94404
>> 650-467-7374
>>
>>
>>  
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>  
>

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Re: Off topic:Spam on R-help increase?

Uwe Ligges
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Carlos Guerra wrote:
> Dear Gunter,
> I am having the same problem at my email box.

Our warmest thanks to Martin Maechler who managed to keep us free from
spam for so many years on the R mailing lists!!!

Uwe Ligges


> Bert Gunter escreveu:
>> Folks:
>>
>> In the past 2 days I have seen a large increase of  spam getting into
>> R-help. Are others experiencing this problem? If so, has there been some
>> change to the spam filters on the R-servers? If not, is the problem on my
>> end?
>>
>> Feel free to reply privately.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Bert Gunter
>> Genentech Nonclinical Statistics
>> South San Francisco, CA 94404
>> 650-467-7374
>>
>>
>>  
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>  
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Re: Off topic:Spam on R-help increase?

Carlos Guerra-3
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Dear Mark,
If you are using an email program like thunderbird or any other you can
filter your emails by key (not very amusing) words at the source.
Best regards,
Carlos

Mark W Kimpel escreveu:

> me too. Over 50% of messages are spam. I also noted the same thing on
> ESS-help.
>
> Carlos Guerra wrote:
>> Dear Gunter,
>> I am having the same problem at my email box.
>>
>> Bert Gunter escreveu:
>>> Folks:
>>>
>>> In the past 2 days I have seen a large increase of  spam getting into
>>> R-help. Are others experiencing this problem? If so, has there been
>>> some
>>> change to the spam filters on the R-servers? If not, is the problem
>>> on my
>>> end?
>>>
>>> Feel free to reply privately.
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Bert Gunter
>>> Genentech Nonclinical Statistics
>>> South San Francisco, CA 94404
>>> 650-467-7374
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
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>>> http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html
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>>>  
>>
>

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Re: Off topic:Spam on R-help increase?

Douglas Bates-2
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On 3/6/07, Peter Dalgaard <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Bert Gunter wrote:
> > Folks:
> >
> > In the past 2 days I have seen a large increase of  spam getting into
> > R-help. Are others experiencing this problem? If so, has there been some
> > change to the spam filters on the R-servers? If not, is the problem on my
> > end?
> >
> > Feel free to reply privately.
> >
> Martin Maechler is still walking about upside-down after the DSC, slated
> to return on March 8 (plus presumably a day or two to recover from the
> flight...).

Actually he is walking around sideways at present.  He's in Dubai, not
New Zealand.

> The lists are currently on minimal maintenance and the spam
> filters have been known to break and give up occasionally. I think we
> just have to bear with it for a few more days.
>
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Re: Off topic:Spam on R-help increase?

Marc Schwartz
On Tue, 2007-03-06 at 12:36 -0600, Douglas Bates wrote:

> On 3/6/07, Peter Dalgaard <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > Bert Gunter wrote:
> > > Folks:
> > >
> > > In the past 2 days I have seen a large increase of  spam getting into
> > > R-help. Are others experiencing this problem? If so, has there been some
> > > change to the spam filters on the R-servers? If not, is the problem on my
> > > end?
> > >
> > > Feel free to reply privately.
> > >
> > Martin Maechler is still walking about upside-down after the DSC, slated
> > to return on March 8 (plus presumably a day or two to recover from the
> > flight...).
>
> Actually he is walking around sideways at present.  He's in Dubai, not
> New Zealand.

LOL....and hopefully having a great time.

It is at times like these, as Uwe noted, where it becomes clear the
extent and results of Martin's efforts in filtering this stuff from the
lists.

Martin deserves a hearty "Well Done!" for managing this great resource
in a superior fashion.

Regards,

Marc

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Re: Off topic:Spam on R-help increase?

Horacio Castellini
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Ya me parecía que no me pasaba solo a mi... :)  uhmmm falló el spam-filter?

> Folks:
>
> In the past 2 days I have seen a large increase of  spam getting into
> R-help. Are others experiencing this problem? If so, has there been some
> change to the spam filters on the R-servers? If not, is the problem on my
> end?
>
> Feel free to reply privately.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bert Gunter
> Genentech Nonclinical Statistics
> South San Francisco, CA 94404
> 650-467-7374
>
>
>
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>

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Re: Off topic:Spam on R-help increase?

Jim Lemon
Horacio Castellini wrote:
> Ya me parecía que no me pasaba solo a mi... :)  uhmmm falló el spam-filter?
>
Si, es todos que lee R-news, pero maravillo, que es el palabra para
"spam" en español?

Jim

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Re: Off topic:Spam on R-help increase?

Martin Maechler
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>>>>> "DB" == Douglas Bates <[hidden email]>
>>>>>     on Tue, 6 Mar 2007 11:57:28 -0600 writes:

    DB> On 3/6/07, Bert Gunter <[hidden email]> wrote:
    >> In the past 2 days I have seen a large increase of  spam getting into
    >> R-help. Are others experiencing this problem? If so, has there been some
    >> change to the spam filters on the R-servers? If not, is the problem on my
    >> end?

    DB> There has indeed been an increase in the amount of spam making it
    DB> through to the list.  We apologize for the inconvenience.  Regretably
    DB> we will not be able to do much about it until the beginning of next
    DB> week.

    DB> Martin Maechler is on vacation at present and I am administering the
    DB> lists until he returns.  Most of the time this works even though the
    DB> mail servers are in Zurich Switzerland and I am in Madison, WI, USA.
    DB> However, in the last two days we have had a surge in spam and quite a
    DB> bit of it is getting through the filters.

    DB> The filters are catching some of the spam.  I think the main
    DB> difference in the last two days has been that the level of spam to the
    DB> lists has increased but it could be that something has happened to the
    DB> filters too.

I've been back today, well relaxed and tanned from the nice
vacation; thanks to all of you for taking such an interest in it:-) ;-)

With a work back-log of almost 4 weeks, I hadn't dared to look
into my R-lists inbox of > 2400 messages until about an hour ago.

"Fortunately" it's not the spammers that would have become
smarter (well they have or their hired geeks, but already a few
months ago, not just now).
The main problem has ``just'' been disk-server, then network and
file mount problems on the mail server that were unfortunately
not seen at first by our IT staff.
As a consequence, there had also been enormous (> 24 hours)
delays in mail delivery, maybe less visible on the mailing list
side of it.
As far as I can see/guess now, the spam problem should have
lasted only about one to two days --- too long of course for
you, but at least not till I had returned to work.

Yes indeed, we are sorry for this, but no, we cannot promise it
won't happen again :-\

Martin

    DB> All the lists except R-help only allow postings from subscribers so
    DB> there should very little spam on the other lists.

    DB> This subscriber-only policy can be difficult for people like me who
    DB> receive email at one address but send it from another.  Either the
    DB> sender must remember to use the account that is registered for the
    DB> list or the list administrator must manually approve the posting.
    DB> Even worse, such a policy dissuades new useRs from posting because
    DB> they get a response that their message has been held pending manual
    DB> approval by the administrator.  Sometimes they react by reposting the
    DB> message, then re-reposting, then ...

    DB> We have avoided instituting such a policy on R-help because of the
    DB> level of administrative work that will be involved and our desire not
    DB> to dissuade new useRs from posting to the list.

    DB> However, if this keeps up we may need to reconsider.

    DB> I would ask for the list subscribers to bear with us until Martin
    DB> returns and can check on whether something has gone wrong with the
    DB> filters.

    DB> ______________________________________________
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    DB> PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html
    DB> and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.

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Re: Off topic:Spam on R-help increase?

François Pinard
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[Marc Schwartz]

>The "Human Spam Filter" (aka Martin) [...]

The R mailing list has, indeed, be remarkably spam-free, and
well-managed so far that I can see.  I do hope, however, that Martin
does not have to do the filtering himself -- it would be just daunting!

In any case, Martin, a lot of thanks from me!

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Re: Off topic:Spam on R-help increase?

Marc Schwartz
On Sat, 2007-03-10 at 10:17 -0500, François Pinard wrote:
> [Marc Schwartz]
>
> >The "Human Spam Filter" (aka Martin) [...]
>
> The R mailing list has, indeed, be remarkably spam-free, and
> well-managed so far that I can see.  I do hope, however, that Martin
> does not have to do the filtering himself -- it would be just daunting!
>
> In any case, Martin, a lot of thanks from me!

The comment was somewhat "tongue-in-cheek".

While a major proportion of spam can be filtered using automated tools,
it takes a significant amount of manual effort to configure the tools to
achieve the level of cleansing that we observe here.

On my system (laptop running FC6 Linux), I am using SpamAssassin with
Bayesian filtering enabled, along with remote spam checks such as DCC,
Razor, Pyzor and some RBLs.

I also recently started using FuzzyOCR (as a plug-in to SA) to enhance
the filtering of spam containing only graphic content. These e-mails are
of course specifically designed to obviate the utility of text based
spam filtering.

However, I still get some that come through despite the above. There are
also 'borderline' e-mails that require manually running the spam/ham
learning scripts.

To increase the filtering effectiveness to the level we see here, I
would have to spend a fair amount of time writing custom rules for SA
and this is where I have no doubt, Martin spends a lot of his time with
list management.

HTH,

Marc Schwartz

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