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Flament, Kevin
Dear R Project team,

I am representing the System Toxicology department of Philip Morris International in the scope of a Windows 10 migration project.
This project is currently at the end of the assessment phase. We would require an answer to this email by the end of this week.

I would like to ask you some questions related to the following software we are using at PMI :

R for Windows 3.0.2
R for Windows 3.1.2

Are all of those software compatible with Windows 10 Enterprise (version 10.0.16299 build 16299)?
Are all of those software compatible with Windows 10 LTSC (version 14393.2399)?
Are those software compatible with a 32 and/or 64 bit version of Windows 10?
Are those application dependent on MS Office?
Have those applications any pre-requisites? Such as Java, .Net, Oracle.

If the software are not compatible, do you have a new version of this software compatible with the mentioned version of Windows 10?
What would be the cost of such migration (instrument replacement if necessary, licence cost, ...)?

If the software are not compatible and a new version is not yet available, could you give me an estimation for the future release availability?

Best Regards,

Kevin Flament

Data & Systems Specialist
PMI Science and Innovation
Quai Jeanrenaud 3
2000 Neuch�tel

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Re: Philip Morris International - Windows10 migration assessment

S Ellison-2
Suggest you take a look at the R website at www.r-project.org; the most important answers are evident there.

If you 'require' more authoritative answers within a particular timescale, I suggest you engage an R consultant and pay for them. This is a voluntary list.


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> -----Original Message-----
> From: R-help [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Flament,
> Kevin
> Sent: 02 August 2018 09:45
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: [R] Philip Morris International - Windows10 migration assessment
>
> Dear R Project team,
>
> I am representing the System Toxicology department of Philip Morris
> International in the scope of a Windows 10 migration project.
> This project is currently at the end of the assessment phase. We would
> require an answer to this email by the end of this week.
>
> I would like to ask you some questions related to the following software we
> are using at PMI :
>
> R for Windows 3.0.2
> R for Windows 3.1.2
>
> Are all of those software compatible with Windows 10 Enterprise (version
> 10.0.16299 build 16299)?
> Are all of those software compatible with Windows 10 LTSC (version
> 14393.2399)?
> Are those software compatible with a 32 and/or 64 bit version of Windows
> 10?
> Are those application dependent on MS Office?
> Have those applications any pre-requisites? Such as Java, .Net, Oracle.
>
> If the software are not compatible, do you have a new version of this
> software compatible with the mentioned version of Windows 10?
> What would be the cost of such migration (instrument replacement if
> necessary, licence cost, ...)?
>
> If the software are not compatible and a new version is not yet available,
> could you give me an estimation for the future release availability?
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Kevin Flament
>
> Data & Systems Specialist
> PMI Science and Innovation
> Quai Jeanrenaud 3
> 2000 Neuch�tel
>
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Re: Philip Morris International - Windows10 migration assessment

Bert Gunter-2
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R is free and open source. Your queries are inappropriate for this list,
which is about help for programming in R.  Please go here and follow the
relevant links to answer your questions:

https://www.r-project.org/

Cheers,
Bert



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On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 1:45 AM, Flament, Kevin <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> Dear R Project team,
>
> I am representing the System Toxicology department of Philip Morris
> International in the scope of a Windows 10 migration project.
> This project is currently at the end of the assessment phase. We would
> require an answer to this email by the end of this week.
>
> I would like to ask you some questions related to the following software
> we are using at PMI :
>
> R for Windows 3.0.2
> R for Windows 3.1.2
>
> Are all of those software compatible with Windows 10 Enterprise (version
> 10.0.16299 build 16299)?
> Are all of those software compatible with Windows 10 LTSC (version
> 14393.2399)?
> Are those software compatible with a 32 and/or 64 bit version of Windows
> 10?
> Are those application dependent on MS Office?
> Have those applications any pre-requisites? Such as Java, .Net, Oracle.
>
> If the software are not compatible, do you have a new version of this
> software compatible with the mentioned version of Windows 10?
> What would be the cost of such migration (instrument replacement if
> necessary, licence cost, ...)?
>
> If the software are not compatible and a new version is not yet available,
> could you give me an estimation for the future release availability?
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Kevin Flament
>
> Data & Systems Specialist
> PMI Science and Innovation
> Quai Jeanrenaud 3
> 2000 Neuchâtel
>
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>
>
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>
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Re: Philip Morris International - Windows10 migration assessment

Rainer Krug-3
Let’s not alienate the business users!

I agree that this is not the right / best forum to ask these type of questions, but where is? I would suggest to at least point them to the right resources. and not say that there questions are inappropriate here.

Actually, if I as a private user would ask that question, I guess I would get an answer here.

So please - not alienate the business users.

Cheers and good luck with Windows,

Rainer




> On 2 Aug 2018, at 16:54, Bert Gunter <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> R is free and open source. Your queries are inappropriate for this list,
> which is about help for programming in R.  Please go here and follow the
> relevant links to answer your questions:
>
> https://www.r-project.org/
>
> Cheers,
> Bert
>
>
>
> Bert Gunter
>
> "The trouble with having an open mind is that people keep coming along and
> sticking things into it."
> -- Opus (aka Berkeley Breathed in his "Bloom County" comic strip )
>
> On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 1:45 AM, Flament, Kevin <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear R Project team,
>>
>> I am representing the System Toxicology department of Philip Morris
>> International in the scope of a Windows 10 migration project.
>> This project is currently at the end of the assessment phase. We would
>> require an answer to this email by the end of this week.
>>
>> I would like to ask you some questions related to the following software
>> we are using at PMI :
>>
>> R for Windows 3.0.2
>> R for Windows 3.1.2
>>
>> Are all of those software compatible with Windows 10 Enterprise (version
>> 10.0.16299 build 16299)?
>> Are all of those software compatible with Windows 10 LTSC (version
>> 14393.2399)?
>> Are those software compatible with a 32 and/or 64 bit version of Windows
>> 10?
>> Are those application dependent on MS Office?
>> Have those applications any pre-requisites? Such as Java, .Net, Oracle.
>>
>> If the software are not compatible, do you have a new version of this
>> software compatible with the mentioned version of Windows 10?
>> What would be the cost of such migration (instrument replacement if
>> necessary, licence cost, ...)?
>>
>> If the software are not compatible and a new version is not yet available,
>> could you give me an estimation for the future release availability?
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Kevin Flament
>>
>> Data & Systems Specialist
>> PMI Science and Innovation
>> Quai Jeanrenaud 3
>> 2000 Neuchâtel
>>
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>>
>>
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>>
>>
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Re: Philip Morris International - Windows10 migration assessment

Peter Dalgaard-2
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It is difficult to answer such questions authoritatively, but

- we have, to my recollection, no reports of major incompatibility with Windows 10

- however, the version numbers of R increase with .1 per year, and we are currently at 3.5.1, so your versions are 4 and 5 years out of date. Most users are upgraded at least annually, so problems with older versions could go undetected

- there is no external cost of migrating to a newer version. R is free software. Rolling it out within an organization could require some manpower, as could sorting out changed behaviour of R and its add-on packages. It should be fairly easy to do a test install of 3.5.1 and run it by your user base to see whether there are issues.

- R works cross-platform and has no specific dependency on MS Office products

- R can interact with Java, but Java is not generally a prerequisite. You may want to check whether your users use packages with Java dependencies

- Peter Dalgaard

> On 2 Aug 2018, at 10:45 , Flament, Kevin <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Dear R Project team,
>
> I am representing the System Toxicology department of Philip Morris International in the scope of a Windows 10 migration project.
> This project is currently at the end of the assessment phase. We would require an answer to this email by the end of this week.
>
> I would like to ask you some questions related to the following software we are using at PMI :
>
> R for Windows 3.0.2
> R for Windows 3.1.2
>
> Are all of those software compatible with Windows 10 Enterprise (version 10.0.16299 build 16299)?
> Are all of those software compatible with Windows 10 LTSC (version 14393.2399)?
> Are those software compatible with a 32 and/or 64 bit version of Windows 10?
> Are those application dependent on MS Office?
> Have those applications any pre-requisites? Such as Java, .Net, Oracle.
>
> If the software are not compatible, do you have a new version of this software compatible with the mentioned version of Windows 10?
> What would be the cost of such migration (instrument replacement if necessary, licence cost, ...)?
>
> If the software are not compatible and a new version is not yet available, could you give me an estimation for the future release availability?
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Kevin Flament
>
> Data & Systems Specialist
> PMI Science and Innovation
> Quai Jeanrenaud 3
> 2000 Neuch�tel
>
> [[alternative HTML version deleted]]
>
> ______________________________________________
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Re: Philip Morris International - Windows10 migration assessment

Rolf Turner
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On 03/08/18 19:03, Rainer Krug wrote:
> Let’s not alienate the business users!
>
> I agree that this is not the right / best forum to ask these type of questions, but where is? I would suggest to at least point them to the right resources. and not say that there questions are inappropriate here.
>
> Actually, if I as a private user would ask that question, I guess I would get an answer here.
>
> So please - not alienate the business users.
>
> Cheers and good luck with Windows.

On the contrary, I would say that one has a moral obligation to alienate
tobacco companies.

cheers,

Rolf Turner

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Department of Statistics
University of Auckland
Phone: +64-9-373-7599 ext. 88276

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Eric Berger
Hi Kevin,
For what it's worth I use R on Windows 10 Pro with the 16299 build (and
also with a later build on a different Windows 10 Pro computer.)
I also use R on Linux machines (specifically Ubuntu).
I use 64 bit versions but both 32bit and 64bit version are available.
As Peter wrote previously, R itself has no dependency on MS Office products.
However there are thousands of R packages freely downloadable (e.g. from
CRAN but also from other sources.)
Some of these packages may have explicit dependencies on commercial
packages.
(e.g. Rmosek is a free package that makes it easy to access the commercial
optimization software mosek.)
Peter also wrote that the latest release of R is version 3.5.1 which makes
your referenced versions quite old.
As far as I know it is generally possible to install any version of R (even
multiple versions of R) on your computer.
For example, when R 3.5.0 was released recently some users experienced some
glitches (some of which have presumably been fixed in 3.5.1.)
Personally I am staying with R 3.4.2 for a while longer.

If PMI requires "commercial" support and has the budget for it, you might
consider contacting Rstudio.com which produces some of the major
software tools used by the R community - Rstudio and Shiny and additional R
packages. They provide both free and commercial versions of
RStudio and Shiny and should have a lot of experience dealing with
corporate customers. Also by supporting them PMI would be indirectly
supporting
the R community at large which greatly benefits from the work they do.

I hope that helps.

Regards,

Eric Berger



On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 11:25 AM, Rolf Turner <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> On 03/08/18 19:03, Rainer Krug wrote:
>
>> Let’s not alienate the business users!
>>
>> I agree that this is not the right / best forum to ask these type of
>> questions, but where is? I would suggest to at least point them to the
>> right resources. and not say that there questions are inappropriate here.
>>
>> Actually, if I as a private user would ask that question, I guess I would
>> get an answer here.
>>
>> So please - not alienate the business users.
>>
>> Cheers and good luck with Windows.
>>
>
> On the contrary, I would say that one has a moral obligation to alienate
> tobacco companies.
>
> cheers,
>
> Rolf Turner
>
> --
> Technical Editor ANZJS
> Department of Statistics
> University of Auckland
> Phone: +64-9-373-7599 ext. 88276
>
>
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R help mailing list-2
In reply to this post by Flament, Kevin
On 03/08/18 19:03, Rainer Krug wrote:
> Let’s not alienate the business users!
>
> I agree that this is not the right / best forum to ask these type of
questions, but where is? I would suggest to at least point them to the
right resources. and not say that there questions are inappropriate here.
>
> Actually, if I as a private user would ask that question, I guess I would
get an answer here.
>
> So please - not alienate the business users.
>
> Cheers and good luck with Windows.

On the contrary, I would say that one has a moral obligation to alienate
tobacco companies.

cheers,

Rolf Turner

--

And I'm down with this moral sentiment 10,000%.

I frankly couldn't believe what I was reading whilst perusing the digest,
and from whom. This smug bloke thinks he can land his 14-ton todger onto
the list, demand answers by a fixed deadline, and all in the service of
doing his bit to help replace the 7 million tobacco users who die every
year - according to the World Health Organisation - with preferably new,
young customers for the likes of PMI to sell their cancer sticks.

Disgusting. *Absolutely* disgusting! What on Bod's Earth are we doing
helping these people? They should be nowhere near this list. Do you hear
that, Philip Morris Angel of Death? I sincerely hope you crash and burn.

--
Clive Nicholas

"My colleagues in the social sciences talk a great deal about methodology.
I prefer to call it style." -- Freeman J. Dyson

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Bülent Köksal
Well said Clive. Thanks.

Bulent

On Fri, Aug 3, 2018, 21:47 Clive Nicholas via R-help <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> On 03/08/18 19:03, Rainer Krug wrote:
> > Let’s not alienate the business users!
> >
> > I agree that this is not the right / best forum to ask these type of
> questions, but where is? I would suggest to at least point them to the
> right resources. and not say that there questions are inappropriate here.
> >
> > Actually, if I as a private user would ask that question, I guess I would
> get an answer here.
> >
> > So please - not alienate the business users.
> >
> > Cheers and good luck with Windows.
>
> On the contrary, I would say that one has a moral obligation to alienate
> tobacco companies.
>
> cheers,
>
> Rolf Turner
>
> --
>
> And I'm down with this moral sentiment 10,000%.
>
> I frankly couldn't believe what I was reading whilst perusing the digest,
> and from whom. This smug bloke thinks he can land his 14-ton todger onto
> the list, demand answers by a fixed deadline, and all in the service of
> doing his bit to help replace the 7 million tobacco users who die every
> year - according to the World Health Organisation - with preferably new,
> young customers for the likes of PMI to sell their cancer sticks.
>
> Disgusting. *Absolutely* disgusting! What on Bod's Earth are we doing
> helping these people? They should be nowhere near this list. Do you hear
> that, Philip Morris Angel of Death? I sincerely hope you crash and burn.
>
> --
> Clive Nicholas
>
> "My colleagues in the social sciences talk a great deal about methodology.
> I prefer to call it style." -- Freeman J. Dyson
>
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Dylan Distasio
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Nice virtue signalling, feel better now?

On Fri, Aug 3, 2018, 3:47 PM Clive Nicholas via R-help <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> On 03/08/18 19:03, Rainer Krug wrote:
> > Let’s not alienate the business users!
> >
> > I agree that this is not the right / best forum to ask these type of
> questions, but where is? I would suggest to at least point them to the
> right resources. and not say that there questions are inappropriate here.
> >
> > Actually, if I as a private user would ask that question, I guess I would
> get an answer here.
> >
> > So please - not alienate the business users.
> >
> > Cheers and good luck with Windows.
>
> On the contrary, I would say that one has a moral obligation to alienate
> tobacco companies.
>
> cheers,
>
> Rolf Turner
>
> --
>
> And I'm down with this moral sentiment 10,000%.
>
> I frankly couldn't believe what I was reading whilst perusing the digest,
> and from whom. This smug bloke thinks he can land his 14-ton todger onto
> the list, demand answers by a fixed deadline, and all in the service of
> doing his bit to help replace the 7 million tobacco users who die every
> year - according to the World Health Organisation - with preferably new,
> young customers for the likes of PMI to sell their cancer sticks.
>
> Disgusting. *Absolutely* disgusting! What on Bod's Earth are we doing
> helping these people? They should be nowhere near this list. Do you hear
> that, Philip Morris Angel of Death? I sincerely hope you crash and burn.
>
> --
> Clive Nicholas
>
> "My colleagues in the social sciences talk a great deal about methodology.
> I prefer to call it style." -- Freeman J. Dyson
>
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>
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>

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Rolf Turner

On 04/08/18 10:07, Dylan Distasio wrote:

> Nice virtue signalling, feel better now?

I was going to respond to this, but then I thought that it would be
better to heed the ancient wisdom: "Do not feed the trolls."

cheers,

Rolf Turner

>
> On Fri, Aug 3, 2018, 3:47 PM Clive Nicholas via R-help <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
>> On 03/08/18 19:03, Rainer Krug wrote:
>>> Let’s not alienate the business users!
>>>
>>> I agree that this is not the right / best forum to ask these type of
>> questions, but where is? I would suggest to at least point them to the
>> right resources. and not say that there questions are inappropriate here.
>>>
>>> Actually, if I as a private user would ask that question, I guess I would
>> get an answer here.
>>>
>>> So please - not alienate the business users.
>>>
>>> Cheers and good luck with Windows.
>>
>> On the contrary, I would say that one has a moral obligation to alienate
>> tobacco companies.
>>
>> cheers,
>>
>> Rolf Turner
>>
>> --
>>
>> And I'm down with this moral sentiment 10,000%.
>>
>> I frankly couldn't believe what I was reading whilst perusing the digest,
>> and from whom. This smug bloke thinks he can land his 14-ton todger onto
>> the list, demand answers by a fixed deadline, and all in the service of
>> doing his bit to help replace the 7 million tobacco users who die every
>> year - according to the World Health Organisation - with preferably new,
>> young customers for the likes of PMI to sell their cancer sticks.
>>
>> Disgusting. *Absolutely* disgusting! What on Bod's Earth are we doing
>> helping these people? They should be nowhere near this list. Do you hear
>> that, Philip Morris Angel of Death? I sincerely hope you crash and burn.
>>
>> --
>> Clive Nicholas
>>
>> "My colleagues in the social sciences talk a great deal about methodology.
>> I prefer to call it style." -- Freeman J. Dyson

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