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R versus SAS

Kjetil Halvorsen
I found this on CrossValidated:

"A medical statistician once told me, that they use SAS because if
they make mistakes due to software bugs and it comes to lawsuits, SAS
will recompensate them. R comes without warranty."

Kjetil

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Re: R versus SAS

Duncan Murdoch-2
On 12-08-07 10:46 PM, Kjetil Halvorsen wrote:
> I found this on CrossValidated:
>
> "A medical statistician once told me, that they use SAS because if
> they make mistakes due to software bugs and it comes to lawsuits, SAS
> will recompensate them. R comes without warranty."
>

I suspect that statistician has never tried to collect.  The statement
on the SAS website refers to the website, not the software, but it has a
statement that is pretty typical of commercial software licenses:

  Warranties and Disclaimers

EXCEPT WHERE EXPRESSLY PROVIDED OTHERWISE IN AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN YOU
AND SAS, ALL INFORMATION, SOFTWARE, PRODUCTS AND SERVICES ARE PROVIDED
"AS IS" WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND INCLUDING WARRANTIES OF
MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NON-INFRINGEMENT.

IN NO EVENT SHALL SAS BE LIABLE FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL,
SPECIAL OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES, OR DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS,
REVENUE, DATA OR USE, INCURRED BY YOU OR ANY THIRD PARTY, WHETHER IN AN
ACTION IN CONTRACT OR TORT, ARISING FROM YOUR ACCESS TO, OR USE OF, THIS
Web SITE OR ANY OTHER HYPERLINKED Web SITE.


I would quote from the actual software license, but it doesn't appear to
be online.  The R license is online, and gives you just as strong a
warranty (i.e. none!) plus quite a few more rights than the typical
commercial software license.

Duncan Murdoch

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Re: R versus SAS

Rolf Turner-3
In reply to this post by Kjetil Halvorsen
On 08/08/12 14:46, Kjetil Halvorsen wrote:
> I found this on CrossValidated:
>
> "A medical statistician once told me, that they use SAS because if
> they make mistakes due to software bugs and it comes to lawsuits, SAS
> will recompensate them. R comes without warranty."
>

If the "medical statistician" really believes that "SAS will recompensate
them" then I have ocean-front property in Arizona to sell him.  Or her.

And I sincerely hope that *my* health does not depend on any results
of that "medical statistician's" analyses.

     cheers,

         Rolf Turner

P. S.  There is no such word as "recompensate".

         R. T.

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Re: R versus SAS

Yihui Xie-2
The Department of Redundancy Department can "recompensate"...

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On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Rolf Turner <[hidden email]> wrote:
>     cheers,
>
>         Rolf Turner
>
> P. S.  There is no such word as "recompensate".

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Re: R versus SAS

Rolf Turner-3
On 09/08/12 14:35, Yihui Xie wrote:
> The Department of Redundancy Department can "recompensate"...

     Yessssssss!!!! :-)

         cheers,

             Rolf

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Re: R versus SAS

Jim Lemon
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On 08/09/2012 07:17 AM, Rolf Turner wrote:
> ...
> P. S. There is no such word as "recompensate".
>
Thanks to R, the internet and pretentious, semi-literate public servants
around the world, there probably is now.

Jim

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Re: R versus SAS

John Kane

> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Thu, 09 Aug 2012 19:55:29 +1000
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [R] R versus SAS
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> On 08/09/2012 07:17 AM, Rolf Turner wrote:
>> ...
>> P. S. There is no such word as "recompensate".
>>
> Thanks to R, the internet and pretentious, semi-literate public servants
> around the world, there probably is now.
>
> Jim

Wait a minute now.  Perhaps it's some recursive compensation scheme/

  Ugh, I think I am getting a head ache.

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Re: R versus SAS

S Ellison-2
 

> > Thanks to R, the internet and pretentious, semi-literate public
> > servants around the world, there probably is now.
> >
> Wait a minute now.  Perhaps it's some recursive compensation scheme/
>
Indeed, perhaps the general remark might be reconsidered. As jane Austen said, "Where any one body of educated men, of whatever denomination, are condemned indiscriminately, there must be a deficiency of information".

But in this case I think someone just messed up 'recompense' and 'compensate'. Or possibly just messed up.
Of course this rereconsideration of recompensation would have to be rerereconsidered if further information came to light.

Good luck with the headache.

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