package ‘rggobi’ is not available (for R version 2.15.0)

[YTP]

I am having problems installing package rggobi. I have spent days reading other people's questions about this topic but could not get any useful info out of previous answers. I am running 32-bit Windows 7 and have successfully installed GGobi version 2.1.8.  

My error looks like this:

> install.packages('rggobi')
Installing package(s) into ‘C:/Users/cprice00c/Documents/R/win-library/2.15’
(as ‘lib’ is unspecified)
Warning message:
package ‘rggobi’ is not available (for R version 2.15.0)

Any help would be extremely appreciated. Thanks.

[Prof Brian Ripley]

On 28/06/2012 15:09, YTP wrote:
> I am having problems installing package rggobi. I have spent days reading
> other people's questions about this topic but could not get any useful info

But not apparently the rw-FAQ, which would only take minutes.  See the
posting guide ....

> out of previous answers. I am running 32-bit Windows 7 and have successfully
> installed GGobi version 2.1.8.
>
> My error looks like this:
>
>> install.packages('rggobi')
> Installing package(s) into ‘C:/Users/cprice00c/Documents/R/win-library/2.15’
> (as ‘lib’ is unspecified)
> Warning message:
> package ‘rggobi’ is not available (for R version 2.15.0)
>
> Any help would be extremely appreciated. Thanks.

Read the rw-FAQ.  No binary package is available, so you need to install
from the sources.  That will work on 32-bit Windows, only (and CRAN does
not distribute 32-bit-only packages).

There is some light at the end of this tunnel: a deadline has been set
for a working rggobi update, and some progress has been made.


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[YTP]

I don't know what a "binary package" or  "install from the sources" means. At any rate I think I have found a simpler solution to my problem.

I read the following in the rggobi package readme file:

Packages
        Cubist, OSACC, RSvgDevice, RSVGTipsDevice, SNPassoc, SNPRelate, eco,
        gcmrec, gdsfmt, magnets, mht, rggobi, survrec
are only available for 32-bit installations and R < 2.15.0.


So I downgraded my version of R to 2.14 and it appears to work fine now.  I don't know why such a simple key fact is buried in the middle of a text file, or not advertised more readily, but maybe this will help someone else.

[Peter Ehlers]

On 2012-06-29 07:11, YTP wrote:

> I don't know what a "binary package" or  "install from the sources" means. At
> any rate I think I have found a simpler solution to my problem.
>
> I read the following in the rggobi package readme file:
>
> Packages
> Cubist, OSACC, RSvgDevice, RSVGTipsDevice, SNPassoc, SNPRelate, eco,
> gcmrec, gdsfmt, magnets, mht, rggobi, survrec
> are only available for 32-bit installations and R<  2.15.0.
>
>
> So I downgraded my version of R to 2.14 and it appears to work fine now.  I
> don't know why such a simple key fact is buried in the middle of a text
> file, or not advertised more readily, but maybe this will help someone else.

This sounds like either a slur on the hard work done by the
CRAN maintainers (Uwe Ligges in particular) or an admission
that you find it difficult to click on 'ReadMe' and then search
for the word 'rggobi' in the file.
Took me all of about 5 seconds and I'm a slow typer.

Peter Ehlers

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[YTP]

My criticism is aimed at the previous reply, which gave an arcane and not helpful suggestion (granted, it may only seem that way to me because of my own incompetence, but I don't know that the knowledge needed to understand "binary package" and "install from the sources" is what you want to require/assume of all R users) which was especially disappointing given the much simpler solution that exists.

More aggravating is the GGobi website which only has a 64 bit download, which required much work to find a 32 bit download, whereupon the package RGGobi only produces a non-descriptive error message, which required days of reading through many forums which only have complicated half-solutions, and then find in the middle of the readme file that the package just doesn't work with the latest version of R. Not to mention saying it's only available for 32 bit installations is completely contradictory to only having the 64 bit version of GGobi available.

I still stand by saying that this is a very poor user experience in acquiring a package and getting it to work.

To say the workaround I found "only takes 5 seconds" is akin to saying "well if you did the thing that works first you'd have solved your problem much quicker", which is of course vacuously true, but ignores the time spent beforehand which was orders of magnitude greater timewise.

My post is clearly about one specific package, there is no basis to think I am criticizing the work done by some large group of CRAN maintainers, let alone anyone in particular not associated with the one package relevant to my post.

[Uwe Ligges-3]

On 29.06.2012 21:03, YTP wrote:

>
>
> My criticism is aimed at the previous reply, which gave an arcane and not
> helpful suggestion (granted, it may only seem that way to me because of my
> own incompetence, but I don't know that the knowledge needed to understand
> "binary package" and "install from the sources" is what you want to
> require/assume of all R users) which was especially disappointing given the
> much simpler solution that exists.
>
> More aggravating is the GGobi website which only has a 64 bit download,
> which required much work to find a 32 bit download, whereupon the package
> RGGobi only produces a non-descriptive error message, which required days of
> reading through many forums which only have complicated half-solutions, and
> then find in the middle of the readme file that the package just doesn't
> work with the latest version of R. Not to mention saying it's only available
> for 32 bit installations is completely contradictory to only having the 64
> bit version of GGobi available.
>
> I still stand by saying that this is a very poor user experience in
> acquiring a package and getting it to work.
>
> To say the workaround I found "only takes 5 seconds" is akin to saying "well
> if you did the thing that works first you'd have solved your problem much
> quicker", which is of course vacuously true, but ignores the time spent
> beforehand which was orders of magnitude greater timewise.
>
> My post is clearly about one specific package, there is no basis to think I
> am criticizing the work done by some large group of CRAN maintainers,

Where large equals 3 for accepting submissions of source packages.

If you'd like to see an easier installation for ggobi, pelase contact
the maintainers of that third party software. If you want to say
something about Rggobi installation, please contact the package maintainer.

Best,
Uwe Ligges


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